Full Transcript of Interview With William Holman
As promised, here is the full transcript of yesterday's conference call interview with "The Bachelorette" and "Bachelor Pad 2's" William Holman. My questions are in PURPLE.
Question: My first question is, what was your take on Bentley and what did you hear from the other guys about -what do they think about him?
William Holman: You know, from - I actually roomed with him in the house and nobody had anything bad - bad to say about Bentley and whenever I talk to Bentley, we always talk about his daughter and that’s all that was discussed. He never opened up and said the things that we heard on TV were discussed that he was, you know, upset that it was Ashley. There was never any of that kind of talk.
Question: You were said to be told by Ashley that you had Peter Pan complex. What part of that did you think would be attractive to woman who had been serious enough to go through years of training to become a dentist?
William Holman: I don’t know, it wasn’t – for me, I just want to clearly know that I want – I want to live life and still have fun throughout life. I just – the way I say it maybe didn’t come across the best way but I want to stay true to myself, and I don’t want to try to be somebody else to make someone happy. So, I want to be me and if she didn’t like me for being me then, unfortunately, it wasn’t meant to be.
Jennifer Matarese: So, how did you think your two-on-one date with Ashley was going while you’re on it? Did you think that you were going to get a rose at the end of your dinner together?
William Holman: Being completely honest, I didn’t feel that I would get a rose at the end of the two-on-one date. It was just one of those things where I was hoping to see her again. Going on the two-on-one date and we could – we would see if we could rekindle our feelings that we had in Las Vegas but - but the two-on-one date definitely didn’t go as expected and if I could do it over again, I would, even knowing that I would be sent home.
Jennifer Matarese: OK, and did Ben C. really talk about dating sites? Why did you decide to bring that up to Ashley? I mean, did you really think he wasn’t sincere or is that to get him out of the way?
William Holman: I did feel like he was insincere. I didn’t do it as a way to get him out of the way. Ben C. is a nice guy but it was something that he did talk about. I wouldn’t have made anything up like that that would – I’m not that kind of person but I just felt like, if she was questioning anyone’s integrity or their purpose on the show then she should know and unfortunately, it’s not like I have a phone and I can call her and say “Hey, you know, one of the guys in the house, I don’t feel is - is even here for you”.
You know the only time we get is - is on camera. So, it wasn’t the best time but it was kind of the only time because no matter what, if I told her it would be seen by everybody. So, not the way I wanted it to really go down. It was just me trying to warn her to let her know, and I didn’t know that he was going to be sent home like right after I told her about that. I figured because of the roast and her giving me a second chance, that she would get down and talk with Ben and feel a little bit more about it to find out, you know, if he was joking about it, why he was joking that way.
Question: My question is, at the roast, you were really, really roasting her and was it something in Ashley let you saw that made you think she can handle that?
William Holman: Earlier in that day, I mean, I thought she was very secure in herself. I didn’t watch the past seasons to know that she really have those - any of those insecurities and for myself, I’d never been up on stage before and it has been a dream of mine but unfortunately, you know, I got up there and I was just scared ridiculous thinking about having to be up on stage. I took it the wrong way as why I thought it was appropriate, I don’t know. I thought roast and I wasn’t even thinking about the outcome.
It was just a little bit of immaturity in me still left. I don’t know, you know, it was a bad idea and I figured if all the guys were going to roast each other why not roast her and maybe I was thinking trying to win her over the guys’ approval and be friends with the guys since I spent so much time with them and it was definitely a bad move.
Question: Do you feel like - I know in Vegas, you guys really like connected, do you think, it was after the rose and because of that you guys started cooling off?
William Holman: I don’t know, particularly, after she met Bentley, there was a different look that she had and it was different feel when we hung out after that. So I think that she just turned a lot of her focus towards Bentley, but then after the rose obviously, it was definitely not there anymore but I was hoping to get – get it back, you know.
Question: Good. So, you told Ashley that there were some bachelors to always have Ashley on their mind but then there were some men who didn’t. What did you mean by that? Did you think some bachelors were there for the wrong reasons or kind of just sticking around despite not having strong feelings for Ashley? And if so, who were they?
William Holman: There was definitely some talk in the house early on and it was a very difficult thing because a lot of guys think, because they haven’t had a one-on-one date or a group date that they don’t have a chance with her and they start thinking about what happens after the show.
I know I did a bad thing by sailing one guy down the river. I wouldn’t want to do that to any other guy - any other guys after doing that because most – any of the other guy did have those feelings after they grab a chance to have a group date or a one-on-one date. That feeling was totally gone. Ashley definitely brings the different feeling out in you. She makes you believe in the process and really appreciates it. It’s just difficult to be in the house in the beginning not having that kind of date.
Question: OK, when I just talked to Jeff Medolla a couple of weeks ago, he told me that he felt only three or four guys are really into Ashley. You agree with that? And if so, what bachelors do you feel were the ones that did have strong feelings for Ashley?
William Holman: I wouldn’t necessarily agree with the Mask on that one but he – I would say that there was definitely guys do have stronger feelings for Ashley than others and Ben F., J.P, myself, you know, and I even thought Bentley in the beginning, I didn’t realize what was going to come out on the show but, you know, Constantine, in the beginning, didn’t seem like he had strong feeling for her but then really he grew on her.
There some of the guys that I really felt like had a true connection in Ames. I didn’t get to see the dates later on because, you know, I just got sent home so I didn’t get to see how their connection was.
Question: Did you get a chance to talk Ben C. before he left? To kind of maybe explain things to him or what would you say to him if you could talk to him now?
William Holman: If I could talk to him, I would definitely know - let him know that, you know, I owe him a lot for how it came out. It didn’t look the best and you know, come down the wire there, and you know, you don’t get to be out and about and the world and get outside of the house that much. It’s one of those things where, I guess I just was getting kind of frustrated being stuck in the house. I really like Ben C. and I think my frustration was just really wanting to go out again and have a date with her took over. I like the guy a lot and he didn’t deserve that and it was a – it was a cheap shot and I definitely owe him a lot, you know, I know I just had a …
Question: Yes, you mentioned your first date with Ashley, what was going through your head whenever you join these wedding things? It could have been intimidating, I guess, maybe overwhelming first date with someone, planning a wedding.
William Holman: Yes, I mean I thought that I would be planning the wedding at the end of this, not the very first date, it was – it was unreal. I mean, it happened in (inaudible), you get on a private jet, and you’re heading to Vegas. You think, you know, what am I going to be doing? We’re going to go party, what's going on to get there? And when I look at the wedding cake, wedding rings and go to process of getting married. It’s very intimidating. I think I handled myself well but, you know, I was definitely nervous and maybe not going to be another first date I go on.
Question: We were wondering, now that you’ve had a chance to do stand up, does it still something that you would, you know, that’s your dream to do as a career?
William Holman: You know, yes, I did the roast, it was my very first time on stage and definitely wasn’t the finest moment that I had, but it’s funny, I had a lot of comics reach out to me and tell me that I have a raw talent and that they would like to see, you know, with training and some practice what I could do. So, it’s something that I definitely still want to do. Whether it’s stand up or some sketch comedy. But I love comedy. It’s something – a passion of mine to make people laugh every day, you know, I definitely want to continue to do something along that route.
Question: Cool. You seemed so uncomfortable after that night. Ashley’s reaction to your routine, you seemed so uncomfortable in the house whenever she was there. Do you think subconsciously, you might have sabotaged the two-on-one date to just be done with all of it?
William Holman: I don’t know if that very well could be and like I said it was – that was another – another time where it’s not my finest moment to sit there and say what Ben C. had been saying in the house and sabotage the date. I don’t know, it was definitely a tough feeling to go through where you feel like you have this opportunity with Ashley and potentially drilling down all to the final one. I mean, you just have that feeling and after the roast, I really lost a lot of that because of myself.
I felt that, how dare a guy treat a girl like that, make her cry? How dare I even have the opportunity to continue to move forward with this because it felt I just like her so much that there was no getting back from it?
Question: If you’d have been in Hong Kong when Bentley returned, what would have been your reaction?
William Holman: If – we all felt like that Bentley would come back because we saw the connection they had or we thought they had, but if I was in Hong Kong and Bentley returned, I would be happy to see Bentley but I’ll also question, you know, why he was – why he was coming back out, why he didn’t have - why he didn’t stick around? It would be troublesome to know that the girl that you’re trying to go after is still hooked on another guy that left weeks ago.
Question: And then, as a follow up was that just maybe cause you to question, leaving the show or how would you have approach it because the tease at last week, the guys had been so upset.
William Holman: Yes, I didn’t see the tease at the end of the last episode to see how they were. I’m sure they were upset because they want to move forward, too. I don’t know if I would – I don’t know if I would have left. I don’t know, that’s a tough thing because if I was there, I might have a different feeling like, you know, why am I going through all these if she’s just so stuck on Bentley, why can’t we just move forward? But maybe she is doing it for closure, maybe he’s coming out to apologize. You know, everybody deserves a second chance or an explanation and maybe that’s what he’s doing on this next week’s episode.
Question: Hi. I know you mentioned a few names before. But who besides Bentley would be the best for her? Who is the one guy you would pick for Ashley?
William Holman: The one guy I would pick for Ashley is an outstanding guy in the house. He’s awesome. I mean, he’s a true friend and J.P is like no other. J.P is a great guy and if I could pick a guy for her I would pick, J.P.
Question: Do you think she might go that way?
William Holman: I could see her going that way. I mean, I saw their interactions and I saw the look on their faces when they got to be around each other, and it’s that look that few people have when they’re really in love and that was tough. To see that and continue moving forward when you make friends with someone in the house like J.P and then to insist that they still go on dates with the girl that, you know, that into.
Question: Yes and that kind of goes to my next question with you sort of answered but the whole idea that she was really stuck on Bentley, I mean, and the guys were mad. And was that obvious to you? I mean, did everyone see that she was unable to open up to them because of Bentley?
William Holman: No, it was – at least for myself, it didn’t look like it with the other guy but we did not see that connection. We saw it after they got back from the Jabbawockeez dance where, you know, Bentley was in a good mood; he was in high spirit. You know, we saw her reaction to Bentley at the roast when she just lit up when he came in, but we didn’t feel that – we didn’t know until we watch the show that he felt that way. It was complete shock to know that there was kind of connection that they had. We didn’t know that she’s still stuck on him.
Question: I won’t be too harsh. So let’s talk about this Peter Pan Complex of yours. OK. Maybe I will be harsh. After seeing yourself on the show, have you felt that you’ve grown up from this experience and do you think when you go out on a date that’s going to be something you say to a woman.
William Holman: I got some – I got some girls that have approached me and said that they’re OK with someone that wants to still be a kid. I don’t know, maybe I’m scared of growing up and that’s what it is but I would say I only watched the very first episode and saw bits of pieces of other - other parts of the other episodes but and I heard plenty from my friends but I like to stay the person that I am and not change but of course, you know, the older you get, the girls they’re looking for someone who’s a little bit more mature. I just want to stay young at heart and no one gets a Peter Pan complex, anything like that.
Young at heart but obviously grow up because I do want to have children and then, that’s something I wanted to have for years now. But I know that I’ve matured from seeing myself on the show and I know I still have some work to do.
Question: Young at heart is probably the best way to put it (inaudible).
My next question is, since you said that you’re interested in standup comedy and performing. Do you think maybe you went on the show to see how you felt in front of the camera? Maybe that’s one of the reasons you wanted to participate?
William Holman: Actually no. I, for me, I didn’t want to use the – obviously the show can be a stepping stone but I didn’t want to use it that way. For me, what’s more important than anything is love. Finding that true love and finding that person you’ll spend the rest of your life with. So for me and knowing that it was Ashley. I’m extremely happy about that because it felt like someone that I could have a connection with. But I – that was in the back of my mind. I really didn’t think anything like that will happen and to have the roast, I was like, wow, I’m glad I’m part of this stage but I didn’t say to myself what’s the possibility that come from this? You know, I don’t need Ashley or anything like that. It was, I don’t know, I really didn’t feel that way coming into the show.
Question: What kind of drama went on behind the scene that you think we would be interested in?
William Holman: What’s that again? I’m sorry.
Question: What kind of drama went on behind the scene that we didn’t get to see on TV?
William Holman: Only thing I can say is as far as drama was what we would make for dinner. We had a couple of chefs in the house and we would argue about what we were going to make for the night. There was not really any drama behind the scenes. All of us guys except for the end where I threw Ben C. under the bus. You know, aside from that, I feel like we all got along really well and there wasn’t too much on an issue even the Mask, we all got along with Jeff just fine. It was - we got along with them great so it was shocking to see the show but for the most part, not too much drama.
You know, we got rained out in Phuket, so we got to be stuck in the same room for awhile while it was raining during monsoon season but none of us really had an issue. We played games and just talked and it was great.
Question: OK and you mentioned earlier that you think everyone deserves a second chance. Would you ever want to go back on the show for your second chance?
William Holman: I don’t know if I would want to go back on the show for a second chance that way. I mean, I put myself out there and, you know, not the best positive feedback that I could get from it. I’ve learned a lot from it but if I had to do it all over again, I would go back on the show. Maybe tweak a few things but I could see myself doing it again.
Question: William, what was the impression of Ames on the show? Some viewers had said he’s grown on them and Ashley obviously saw something in him to have kept him around this long. But do you feel she actually had a romantic connection with him or do you think she hesitated to eliminate him just because he was kind of, you know, really nice guy on his one-on-one and then, ended up getting the concussion on the group date?
William Holman: I was worried for Ames when he got the concussion. He’s a great guy. Ames is like no other. He’s by far the most interesting person I ever met in my life. I wish that we just had a separate show for Ames so everybody could see really what a stand up guy he is. But as far as Ashley thought -- in what they had or anything, I mean, when Ames would come back, he would act like he never got a chance to talk to her and nothing really happened. But I saw they got along great. I don’t know, she – it’s something about the guy that draws you in right way and you want to know more. So I think – I’m trying to remember the question fully and I apologize.
Question: That’s OK. It’s kind of whether he was really a nice guy on the one-on-one date and ended up getting the concussion on the group date, maybe had anything to do with Ashley keeping him around rather than a connection they may have established.
William Holman: No. Yes, he got the concussion but I don’t think she kept him for sympathy or anything like that. Like I said there’s a presence – there’s something about when you’re around Ames, you have to keep him around, there’s more to know about the guy and still a ton more to find out about him.
Question: OK. I know, you already touched on this but I want to clarify. Could you elaborate on what exactly Ben C. had told you guys when the dating topic was discussed and whether you thought he was really just joking or being completely serious at the time?
William Holman: It was – it was talked about a specific online dating sites and I don’t want to reveal those dating sites that he’d discussed but it was dating site that he’s used before and his words were, after – “after the show is over, he was going to be able to clean up” and to me it didn’t sit well with me so I felt that she needs to know.
Question: OK and lastly, Chris Harrison has said that Ashley wasn’t in a good place during the two-on-one date and actually wasn’t really up for fighting for either you or Ben C. And he’s also said that Ashley was in such a bad mood that probably neither J.P or Ben F. could actually, you know, survive the date even though they seem to be the front runners at the time. So what’s your reaction to that? And you think you were maybe unfairly eliminated because Ashley was just to quote Chris a quote, unquote “cranky mood?”
William Holman: She may have been on a cranky mood. I didn’t get that from when we were on a two-on-one date. I felt that you know, we were having a good time. Well, we were trying to have a good time but the cranky mood, I didn’t really see it. I know. There’s editing that takes place, but I didn’t get the opportunity to see that. And I know if she may have not been on a mood to fight for me and I can understand why because, you know, I made her cry and to me it was – I didn’t feel like I deserve any more from her because of that.
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