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Full Transcript of Interview with Gia, Ames, and Jackie

Here is the full transcript of the conference call interview with Gia, Ames, and Jackie.  The questions I asked are in PURPLE.  Look for the part about Ames talking about his breakup with Jackie.  It's very revealing who dumped who here.


Jennifer Matarese:         My first question is for Ames and Jackie.  Could you tell us the status of your relationship right now? 


Ames Brown:     Well, we had a great time on the show and chose love over money in the competition and so on.  And we’re not still dating, but we enjoyed every moment we had together. 



Jennifer Matarese:         OK.  And Gia, have you forgiven Graham for kind of going behind your back and telling Kasey that you are talking, that you spoken to him. 


Gia Allemand:    I – I think forgiveness is always essential in life, I believe in forgiving anybody if they want to be forgiven.   So, yes, I forgave him as ever rekindling the friend that we once have, I don’t would ever happen. 


Question:            It was really a shock for viewers to see you decide to leave, what was that one thing that made you go – I don’t want to do this anymore or was it the buildup of things that maybe viewers didn’t get to see? 


Gia Allemand:    You know, it was definitely a buildup of things like, being on the show last year and knowing what to expect and then just being on the show his year, and just not having like one person to be honest except for Jackie. 

Like the only people I could trust was Jackie, Ames and Jake and then just having like Graham who I thought was my like, really good friend, to do something like that was just for me, over the edge and it just wasn’t worth to be staying there anymore, feeling what I was feeling. 


Question:            And for Jackie and Ames?  Were you guys surprised that how quickly you connected while on the show? 


Jackie Gordon:  Yes, for me – I mean, usually it doesn’t happen so fast.  Certainly, I believe it was love at first sight for me anyway.  And it’s possible and it’s even possible on the Bachelor Pad house remarkably.

I shocked myself in my ability to fall so quickly, but Ames is a wonderful person and he made me feel very, very comfortable. 


Question:            Jackie, were you more surprised that you were eliminated or that Ames decided to go with you? 


Jackie Gordon:  I have to say it wasn’t so much a shock that I was eliminated that night.  I knew that I haven’t really have my head in the game for quite some time since I found Ames and I had started our – you know, relationship in the house.

I was pretty surprised that he eliminated himself to accompany me in the limo.  It was a pleasant surprise and he had not told me that he was going to do that, so it was a very sweet moment. 


Question:            Assuming you watched last night episode, were you surprised to see Kasey and Vienna go against the pact you guys made and vote Jackie out? 


Ames Brown:     We were not expecting Kasey and Vienna to turn on us, they had given us their word, but I think I speak for Jackie when I say that we wish them the best, regardless. 


Question:            Gia, do you have any regrets leaving the way that you did and Gia are there any guys in the house that you wished you have like to pair – pair off with? 


Gia Allemand:    Would I have what?


Question:            Is there one guy in the house that you wish you would have paired off with instead of your partner? 


Gia Allemand:    I don’t.  The one regret I have leaving, I wish I would have, before I left, spoke my mind a little more and tell people that was – like what they’re doing is wrong in every way.

I mean, I wish I would have had – make more of an impact on showing people that, you play this game in a – in an adult, strategic and morally right way.  I wish I would have been more vocal about that before leaving. 


Question:            Jackie, I wanted to see what your thoughts were on the way Erica was portrayed in last night’s episode.   We all felt, you know, during the game, we felt so bad for her, I mean what did you guys say to her after, because you know she seemed kind of upset at the game. 


Jackie Gordon:  Yes, it was really hard to watch Erica go through that much pain – physical and emotionally, she is a great girl, you know if that is the nature of the game, we are put in these very difficult situations where, we have, you know hurt – potentially hurt others feeling and that’s the sad part about – about a game like this. 

But I believe we you know, we all felt for her and all pretty much try to help her reassure about what a great girl she is and how she shouldn’t worry and, you know, just take it for what it is and realize that she can rise above it and that she’s a great girl. 


Question:            Great, and the last question is for Ames.  When we were all watching it last night, we kind of like compared Blake to being like (Bentley) from your season, I guess we didn’t realize you know, that he could be a little cool, especially when you're talking about Melissa.  Did you see that at all on your season about Blake, you know, not being so nice? 


Ames Brown:     One thing Blake did do in the episode from last night is he did dishonor his friendship to me and to Jackie being voted, to keep Jackie with us on the show.   So, I say we’re pretty much indebted to him.  But no, I – he had outstanding character on the season where I was in. 


Question:            The question is for Gia.  From watching the show, it seems really obvious that Kasey going to be in good position to control the game if you guys didn’t get him out of the house the first elimination.   So why were you so adamant about honoring that brief alliance you had made with him and do you think he wouldn’t have voted you out the soon you got the chance to? 


Gia Allemand:    What it comes down to with me and the person that I am is anything that I say, I really try to do, I try to be real and honest as much as I can be and I just try to let money get in the way of destroying that good quality I created for myself. 

And – but if I would have voted Kasey off, yes it may have gotten me farther in the game and I may have won, but I have to sleep at night knowing that, you know I was dishonest. 


Question:            Ames, when you went on Bachelor Pad, how were you feeling after everything that had happened on the Bachelorette with Ashley?  Were you kind of still reeling from that relationship at all and what were your initial intentions going on the show and how did it change, if at all you met Jackie?  And kind of a little of a loaded question, where are you know, would you may be interested of being the next Bachelor?


Ames Brown:     I think when I met Jackie I pretty much forgot about everything, that I was thinking because she was so beautiful and charming. 

And so I can’t even remember what my plan was coming in the Bachelor Pad because whatever it was, it changed pretty instantly and the second question about the Bachelor, it hasn’t been discussed or anything so – at this point, I don’t even know. 


Question:            Gia, you were extremely upset in the premier episode when Jake gave his rose to Vienna instead of you.   Do you think he was being honest when he was trying to kind of extend an olive branch to Vienna?  Or do you think he was just trying to kind of play up, you know the good guy persona to the cameras and you think it would have been a certainty Vienna would have gone home, had Jake not given her that rose? 


Gia Allemand:    I think, Jake – Jake's whole point of going that show was to do something good and to be a bigger and better person.  And as much as I didn’t agree with him giving her the rose, I understand that, that rose to him, even, like it just meant like, I’m sorry for whatever, can we be friends in this house?  Can you stop telling everyone to hate me?  Because at that point, not one person in the house like Jake or gave her a chance because Vienna had rallied people up for weeks before this game, before this show and got everyone to think Jake was this monster. 

So he just wanted to give something to break the spite between her, I mean his strategy didn’t work.  He is a genuinely one of the best people I’ve ever had the opportunity to meet in my life and I’m like, I’m proud to say I’m his friend.


Question:            OK, great.  My last question is for Jackie.  You had this season's first one-on-one date with Jake, you seem very skeptical of what Jake had to say in the beginning but then you kind of warmed up to him during the date, but then you seem be against him again by the time last night's egg challenge came along.  So, what happened there and did you start to develop feelings for him at all at any point? 


Jackie Gordon:  You know, I too could only say wonderful things about Jake.  In the beginning I do admit I was skeptical. 

Vienna spoke – you know, made a very strong case against him and you know as a fellow – as another woman, I tend to believe what a woman says of her man initially but I, once I got to know him and I did get to know him very well from our date, and get a long time together alone, I realized that his intensions are pure, they are good.  He is there for the right reasons, you know, he wants to make amends with Vienna and put this past him and move on. 

And I respect him for making as much of an effort as he did to make those feelings known to both Kasey and Vienna.  

So I – as for feelings for Jake, you know, who is to say?  I don’t know things would have been different, you know if situations are different people have seen or on the show or hadn't been but I think he’s highly attractive inside and out. 


Question:            So, Ames and Jackie, I have to say that everywhere all over Facebook, Twitter, everybody was talking about that moment and how it was one of reality TV’s best moments out there.  And now I’m so sad to hear that you guys broke up.   Can you give us like a short, like synopsis to whatever you know you can about what happened like why it didn’t work out? 


Ames Brown:     Yes. 


Jackie Gordon:  Well, ok you want to go first? 


Ames Brown:     We had an amazing time while we were together and just after a little while, split up, nothing too exotic, about it. 


Question:            Was there a long distance situation or? 


Ames Brown:     No, there’s no long distance situation. 


Question:            Yes, are you – and you obviously are still friends? 


Ames Brown:     Totally, absolutely.  Absolutely still friends. 


Question:            Do you think it was more of you know, what happens with – when there’s cameras around and all of that, it kind of like heightens the emotion and when you get back to reality, it’s like "oops, well maybe we’re not as compatible?"


Jackie Gordon:  I think it could be a combination of that, I also think that life situation that comes in afterwards.   And you don’t predict certain outside influences and things that can happen outside of your control once you get out of this very controlled environment.   And, you know I personally was definitely shocked that it – that it ended as it did. 

I was certainly not expecting that, you know I felt this was something that has potential forever so, you know, but with every relationship, nothing may be exactly perfect, yes. 


Question:            Can you pinpoint what, like what maybe the one thing that lead to the demise? 


Jackie Gordon:  No, unfortunately I wish I could. 


Gia Allemand:    I’m just finding this out, you guys, I can’t believe I’m hearing this, I’m sorry to butt in, was this a mutual thing?  Like, where that heck had I been? 


Ames Brown:     Gia, let us talk offline.


Gia Allemand:    I'm posting pictures on Twitter of you guys. 


Question:            All right, let me ask Gia this.  Gia, you know, you’ve didn’t find love on the Bachelor.  You didn’t win the Bachelor Pad 1 or 2, if they ask you to be the Bachelorette, would you do that?  We need love for you. 


Gia Allemand:    Oh, I have so much love.  I have a 6’10 honeybunch that is just the cutest thing ever.  I wouldn’t give him up for anything. 


Question:            So now you have a boyfriend? 


Gia Allemand:    Yes, yes. 


Question:            Gia, you’ve done Bachelor Pad before and you said to (Chris) at the end, maybe this wasn’t the show for you, you want, like it wasn’t for you.  Was it really that different this time around than the first time? 


Gia Allemand:    This time, was like about a hundred times crazier than last year. 

Like, last year was like, you know everyone strategizing people were strategizing like, in a normal way.

Like, you know.  You knew who you could trust and you knew who you couldn’t trust and you knew what side they were, you knew what advantage you have.

This time, people are saying they’re your friends, people that you think are your friend are your friends, like were going behind your back, like talking bad about you.  Like, people, it was just like every bad quality that you can think of is in that house.


Question:            Gia, maybe because people had watched the first season and kind of knew how to play the game this time. 


Gia Allemand:    Yes, you know, it – a lot of people have you know, Kasey and Vienna has a huge advantage before hand and you know living in L.A., going to a lot of the bachelor reunion, knew a lot of people and they formed these alliances weeks before the show. 

And, you know, people like me, Jackie, Ames and Jake like just really didn’t have as much of a shot and really wasn’t much we could do and just in a really tough time there this year. 


Question:            Yes.  I guess this question is for all three of you.  Of all of the people who were left in – in Bachelor Pad, who would you want to win? 


Jackie Gordon:  I personally very much relate to Ella, I think she’s a great girl, strong, she has a great reason to be there.  You know she has to provide for her young son and I think her intensions are also very pure.  So I’d like to Ella win. 


Gia Allemand:    I like to see Jake win, yes. 


Ames Brown:     Yes, I was to (inaudible) Jackie didn’t notice anyone else, I think we won. 


Jackie Gordon:  Yes, I like to quote at the end actually that he did win. 


Question:            So, we are wondering if you could each tell us what your favorite moment was during the filming of the show?


Ames Brown:     Well for me it would be of course the exit of Jackie. 


Jackie Gordon:  As for me, it would be, probably the exit too, although I wish I had a (inaudible) but that exit so (inaudible) in my heart. 


Gia Allemand:    For me, it was going home.  I was just happy to get out of there.   On my own terms. 


Question:            You all seem like three of the nicest people that have ever on the Bachelor Franchise.

Did you think going in to it and Gia you obviously, you obviously have been there before, but did you think you could actually be manipulative enough to win the prize at the end of the day? 


Gia Allemand:    You know, I came into this again and I was like you know, I have no shot, like I have a strategy last year, but I wasn’t, I wasn’t as strong as everybody else.  I wasn’t able fake, you know blatantly told Kiptyn that I voted him off and (he is making) me leave. 

So I thought this year, like you know I’m going to strategize this year, I’m going to do this differently.  I came in there and I was even softer than last year, I had no shot but you know I feel so blest to have been on the show and met people like Jackie and Ames.  Because, there’s not many people out there like these two and bless your heart, Ames for leaving, like the way you did. 

Like I, I can’t even, I never imagine seeing that, like really I was, I’m happy to be a part of something like you two. 


Jackie Gordon:  He's speechless, Gia.


 Question:           Well, Gia I have a question, because today looks like it looks like Kasey and Vienna put up the video, kind of sharing their thoughts on episode two. 

And Vienna says that you guys, you and she made up on the first episode, you guys kind a have a good talk and you are friends again.  But then she saw that you are trying to get rid of her on the second episode.   Can you talk about you relationship now and what happened on the show? 


Gia Allemand:    Yes, I’d love to actually.  Kasey, I’ve always have a big heart for Kasey and I have always respected Kasey and loved Kasey.  And I think that he is a good person and I feel bad that, we don’t have the relationship that we once had. 

As for me and Vienna, when we did talk in the house a little bit I never received an apology from her but I did know I have to live in the house with this girl. 

And I didn’t want to be enemies with her, you know, we were adults to one another, like she didn’t yell at me, she, you know, she did make me feel uncomfortable a lot of times. 

She did make Jake feel uncomfortable which make me feel uncomfortable.  I wouldn’t say, I wouldn’t call Vienna my friend by any means but I wouldn’t call her like my enemy, like if I saw here, I would say hello.  But, the extent of what here and I will ever be. 


Question:            And do you think that, it seem like it’s almost like (villain edit) that Kasey, Vienna are getting.   Do you think what’s were seeing from there is fair, is there a lot of good sides of them that show is just leaving out?  That’s for anybody. 


Gia Allemand:    I think everybody has the good and bad in then.  I think that, sometimes, when there’s money involved, some people forget and let their bad personality traits come out a little more than their good.  And I think that, Kasey and Vienna just, you know, just didn’t care enough about people’s feelings and they were more into winning than everything else, and I think that’s where they went wrong. 


Question:            Hey guys.  I am infuriated watching the show, because I think, how could these people not see like, gee, basically what you were saying, like hey we need to break up the power couple, I was here last year, it’s like you all watched the show for the most part, maybe Ames (accepted).

But for the most part most people saw Bachelor Pad 1, they know how it worked like, they watched two people couple up and go to the end and win the money. 

So it’s so infuriating to me that people don’t say, hey if you know if we just go against Kasey and Vienna, we could break up a power couple. 


Gia Allemand:    I asked myself that, last year I asked myself that, this year, not one person. 

Sorry, Jackie and Ames, I love you both but nobody, nobody understood that like I didn’t want to be the person that’s like you have to do this, you have to do that. 

I want people to make their own decisions, I want people to learn, you know, that’s why I wasn’t so hard on Jake like you know I could have – you know me and Jake are very close, I could have like made him not like – but I know what he wanted to do in his heart was righteous. 

So I let him, let him do that and make his own decision. 


Question:            All right.  It just – it just blows my mind because I feel like, especially because you can see Kasey and Vienna getting very cocky and very like, you know, I run this game, I do this, I tell people what to do.  And I’m thinking, how are all these people – adults, and they don’t say, you know what, wait a second, you don’t tell me what to do, you don’t run this game and like turn on them.  I don’t know. 


Gia Allemand:    It’s crazy, if people have like so much fear of leaving that they put their fate in the hands of the two people that are most vocal. 

That’s what I have to say, well I think that people are more afraid of them than anything and seeing or they think somehow, you know, show that exudes this sense of power and people kind of, people were feeling like they were, like they were the ones to you know, try to hold the strings to keep everybody around. 

It’s unfortunate that other people didn’t speak up more including myself, but,  you know, obviously my intentions to playing the game have changed drastically so. 


Question:            Right.  Do you guys think that this season has more, in terms of the casting, I mean I know you and Michelle – Jackie you and Michelle have had issues, you know obviously putting you know Holly and Mike in there who had broken up and you know, Gia and Vienna had issues and then Vienna, Kasey and Jake had issues.  You think there was more as if it was more likely to be more dramatic and crazy then it was the first season because of, coming in, just in terms of the casting? 


Jackie Gordon:  Absolutely, I think that, that is no shock to anybody that they chose the cast, as the they did, you know the nature of the show is to put people kind of against one another and see how far they will go to win $250,000 so I’m not shocked at all by the cast.  I think that they were brilliant in casting who they did and you know I think the ratings are kind of proving that as well. 


Question:            I have to say, you know, Jackie and Ames, I too, totally fell for the moment.  I was like oh my God they’re great this was awesome, so, kind a sad and shocked that you are no longer together.   How long did it last? 


Ames Brown:     A couple of weeks, maybe. 


Question:            OK.  That’s such a bummer. 


Ames Brown:     But it was wonderful while it lasted. 


Gia Allemand:    Hey, while it's still going on, you two just like telling me that there’s no Santa Claus. 


Question:            I know, I agree.


Gia Allemand:    If it’s wonderful while it lasted, what the heck?  I’m sorry you two, but I have not heard this.   And why ...


Ames Brown:     Well, let's just talk about this at lunch, ok. 


Gia Allemand:    I love you both, there’s no reason for you to not be together. 


Ames Brown:     Wait, I love you both. 


Jackie Gordon:  I think this was a shock to myself just as much as all of you guys.  So, you know it is what it is and different things happen and you know I’m going to say I didn’t have my share of heartbreak, I certainly did, sorry, Ames.  I have cried it out a lot, it’s been hard but you know, you live and you learn and I’m glad that I loved.


Gia Allemand:    Jackie ,you are coming over today, I can’t believe you guys are going through this, you guys didn’t tell me. 


Question:            I know, it sounds like, the way it sounds to me it just sounds like, Jackie, but you just made it seems like that this was an Ames decision and not a Jackie’s decision or was it a mutual decision? 


Jackie Gordon:  You know, I was certainly surprised by it that it came out of nowhere at least for me, as far as I knew for a while things are great, I just thought it lasted much, much longer than it did. 

But, you know, it takes two, so I guess he didn’t and you know it was hard, it’s a hard pill to swallow when you find love, specially on a show like that, where it's so unusual and it leaves you, it’s hard.


Question:            Ames, can you give us any clue, I mean? 


Ames Brown:     Ah. 


Question:            I think you're being kind of (cakey) and I know this is like a personal thing obviously, why you broke up. 


Ames Brown:     Yes. 


Question:            But, I mean, you seem so – I mean you so seem so caught up in the (two weeks).


Ames Brown:     You know, we just, there’s nothing bad I could possibly say, she’s wonderful in every way, we’re just weren’t maybe the ideal match. 


Question:            OK, so no chance of reconciliation? 


Ames Brown:     I don’t think so. 


Question:            Jackie, you have mentioned that Vienna had well, as we actually all saw, built a really strong case against Jake. 

I’m wondering, do you still think that all that negativity she put out there could backfire against her if the show continues, because it looks like night, that some people are starting to get their fill of that, particularly Ella and Kirk. 


Jackie Gordon:  You know I think, what we put out in the universe comes back to us, so, I don’t know, I mean that people do start to sense negative energy, I’m not going to say anything bad about Vienna.  I think she’s a fine human being. 

But, you know, she has a very forceful way about her and it could possibly you know, I’m sure the personalities in the house will then will eventually start to clash more that they are right now. 

So, it’s really natural on reality T.V.


Question:            Yes, I was asking for your input on that question.  But you think people are going to sort of wise up to all that negativity and maybe sort of go over Jakes camp, maybe see that she’s a little too negative?


Gia Allemand:    I think that she just had too many weeks in advance of putting in people’s head what Jake didn’t do to her, over exaggerating their relationship.  I know that there was ups and downs in their relationship but, what she made Jake out to be is completely false. 

And if that was her strategy to lie about some ones character, then it's in every ones head like it’s been drilled in there for weeks and Jake, you know, he doesn’t know – y he doesn’t talk to anybody on the Bachelor, he works a lot, he keeps to himself, he went in there thinking he had an even shot to make friends and he walked of there not being able to make a friend because of the judgments already put on him. 


Question:            And watching the show back now, is there anybody’s behavior that is really kind of surprising to you?  Maybe somebody that’s been a little bit more manipulative and shady – shadier the you actually saw being on the show. 


Gia Allemand:    Graham, definitely Graham. 

I still, cry to this day over Graham because we are like best friends, we we’re like as close as me and Jake are really close, me and Graham were just as close, if not closer. 

We hungout all the time in New York, I always participated in his charities and did whatever I can to help him out and being on the show and him talking about me.  At one point even, like ignoring me and then voting me off and you know, it’s just very, it was so hurtful to even stay in that house when a friend for a year and a half is doing that to you. 


Question:            Can you name anybody that you saw a different side of when you were watching the show or maybe they were a little worse than you had thought, while you’re on the show?


Ames Brown:     I was too concerned with, enjoying time with Jackie to pay any attention to how people were on the show.  So really I had no expectations to be shattered or confirmed. 


Question:            Hey guys.  So this question is for Jackie and Ames.   So given that you aren’t dating anymore, are you both currently single or either of you dating someone else now? 


Ames Brown:     I am currently single. 


Jackie Gordon:  I am also currently single. 


Question:            OK, and Ames, what was going through your mind when you decided to chase after the limo and hop in with Jackie?  You looked kind of confused for a short moment, so were you at all considering to stay in the mansion and continue competing and had you pre-planned your exit well ahead of time or is it kind of just spur for the moment decision? 


Ames Brown:     It was pretty spur for the moment but I never had any doubt and knew what I had to do and if there any look of confusion on my face it was just, how to physically engineer getting into the limo, because there are you know certain rules around the rose ceremony. 

But – but, it was definitely the best thing I did at Bachelor Pad and certainly the most rewarding and I wouldn’t change it for anything. 


Question:            OK, Gia, you seem shocked that Graham told Kasey what your plans were to wipe out the power couple?  Did you ever get the explanation you were looking for from him as to what he actually said and why he would do that to you?

 And then, are you still friends with him, and if so, how much sure of a process was it for you to kind of move on from what happened and who might have initiated the reconciliation if that actually happened. 


Gia Allemand:    I was extremely shocked at what Graham did to me.  Graham is like Jake to me, so I couldn’t believe that you know he would sit there with me, when you guys only saw like a few minutes but it was hours of talking, catching up like (inaudible) like this and like being this, oh this is going to be great, we’re going to break up this power couple, where going to get out of the drama, where going to get out all the sadness, it’s going to be good, and everyone’s going to have this great shot. 

And you know, we’ve been best friends, like we’ve been like really good friends, like we live in New York together.  And then he goes and does that to me, I was like, it was, I just lost a friend, like you know on this national T.V. show, I was just heartbroken, I was just like, had nothing else there. 

You know like, I knew Jake was going to go home and there’s nothing else for me stay there for the money. 

It wasn’t worth it, you know, if you have no friends there and you know people are being all Jake and everyone’s hurting each other, you know, why do you want to be part of something like that?


Question:            OK, so are you still talking to him now and was there reconciliation?


Gia Allemand:    Graham has reached out to me a few time and apologized and I do forgive him, I – he was a great friend of mine, I don’t think we're going to be as close as we once were but forgiveness is good. 


Question:            OK and my last question is, this could go out to anyone, what are your thoughts about Melissa and her relationship with Blake?

Jackie, you were on the Bachelor with Melissa so maybe this best answered by you, but have viewers been seeing an accurate depiction of her is it just the editing? 


Jackie Gordon:  You know, I respect Melissa, she acts on how she feels and she’s very honest and upfront about her emotion, which is hard to be on the show like this I think.  I feel I actually feel sorry for her that she got caught up in this situation that she just got caught up and you know, I know it was unfortunate the first season on the Bachelor with Rachelle and I know that she regrets that. 

And then also the time with Blake, I think that was kind of out of her control, she let her heart lead and she’s a very emotional girl. 

I’m sure it’s hard for her to experience it and it (and watch later), and I think she's a good girl.


Hugs, Kisses & Roses,
Jennifer Matarese


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