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08/17/2012

Full Transcript of Interview with Chris Bukowski

Here is the full transcript of the interview with bed-hopper Chris Bukowski!  It's a great interview with a little hilarious part in the middle where one of the interviewers started to ask him about the Glee Project by mistake, ha!  Also, he addresses whether or not he would ever want to be "The Bachelor".

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Question:            So I'm sure you're aware that many viewers think you've been coming across pretty differently on Bachelor Pad, than you did during Emily's season of The Bachelorette, especially with the whole Blakeley, Jamie, Sarah thing and all that.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Right.

 

Question:            So, can you talk about whether there was actually a change in your personality.  And if so, I guess, my question is was it on purpose?  Like was it just because you are trying to win the money and didn’t really care about anything else or was there more to it than that?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Right.  Well, I definitely had a different approach.  You know, going into Emily's season I was there for love.  And I was very close to find that and I did but I didn’t work out.  And I was actually really surprised how everything went with Emily’s season.  And it wasn't easy for me.

 

                And going into Bachelor Pad, there's only one thing in my mind and that was winning the money.  And to do that, there's got to be some things you got to lie a little bit and you got to play the game. 

 

                And I want to say my personality changed in my real life.  But obviously on the show you see a different side of me that’s "just kind of wants the money."  I mean you don’t really get opportunity to win money and I'm just trying to win it.

 

 

Question:            OK.  So just to clarify, like some viewers are wondering whether your behavior on the show was kind of a result from Emily breaking your heart and you entering Bachelor Pad still hurt and kind of angry.  So, would you mind elaborating on that?

 

                Like, do you think you were acting out a little bit because of what you previously went through?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Like I said I didn’t expect what happened in Emily's season.  I don't it was so real for me and so great.  And obviously, there wasn't a happy ending but I was heart broken, I really was.  And I guess you could say a little of the way I acted and it was because of that, it was because I was I was hurt.

 

                And I laid my whole heart on the line in The Bachelorette and I think the ones that the Bachelor Pad thinking that if there's any chance that I'm going to find that girl that I want to be with.  I just took a totally different approached and played the game.

 

Question:            OK.  And as Jamie was walking out of the house following her elimination, she basically called you out for kind of treating women in the house poorly and stuff like that and you seemed to get very frustrated because you were actually campaigning to keep her around.

 

                But, regardless of that Jamie said, you were going to regret your actions.  So do you?  Like, are there things you wish you had done or said differently?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                No, I don’t regret anything.  I don’t want to see anybody get hurt.  But if you're going on to a game show, like the Bachelor Pad, you should have expect that your feelings may get hurt.  People are going to go lie to you to win.  And that’s the point of the game and that’s to win.

 

                And to be honest, I was expecting a big hug from Jamie.  I did not think that she was going to call me out like that and I was shocked when she did because I actually was campaigning for her to stay.  And I was trying to make a critical move in the game.  And, you now, for her to say that, I can understand why she was hurt and stuff but I I really didn’t expect that from her.

 

                So it is what it is.

 

Jennifer Matarese:         Hi, OK.  So, a little bit off of what you were just talking about there.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes.

 

Jennifer Matarese:         I mean, you did say on the show that eventually you wanted Jackie out and Blakeley out, so you could kind of do your own thing and have fun again.  So, I mean, she wasn’t really wrong in what she said, was she?  I mean, why were you so shocked that she that, was it just because you didn't know that she kind of knew more than you thought she did?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Well, I mean, I really was shocked when - when she called me out for that.  I did want to get Blakeley out just because, obviously our partnership fell apart.  And I did I was attracted to Jamie and we did talk about how we didn't want to get emotionally involved in the show.

 

                I mean, that was a big part of me as far as how I was going to kind of chance to win these games.  I didn't think be emotionally too strong involved with a girl was the best strategy.  And we talked about that.  She was there for the money just as much as I was.

 

                And I think we just, I don’t know, kind of had a little misunderstanding, obviously.  And she was going to be part of the strategy if I and she'd stayed around.  And it's just didn’t work out in my favor or her favor.  So she was obviously upset in and rightfully so.

 

Jennifer Matarese:         OK.  And you initially were partnered with Blakeley, obviously as you've kind of seems to regret that, I mean, what – that if you could do it over again, who do you think you would try to partner with right off the back?  And what would do differently?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Right.  And, you know what, honestly, I don’t regret being partners with Blakeley.  And we've became partners by chance.  And I was lucky to have her as my partner.  She is probably the most athletic girl that was on the field.  And as far as from a competition standpoint, I thought that was going to be perfect, especially early on in the physical competitions.

 

                You know, I was happy to have her as a partner but she just – it’s just kind of got – and we – and it started not being fun for me, there was just – there was a lot of work.  So, you know if I had to pick a different partner, I mean, from the very beginning, I think it's tough to say because I really didn’t know anybody going into that season except for a couple of the guys.

 

                I don't, there's probably a couple of girls, maybe like Rachel or Sarah, so, yes, maybe the two of them.

 

Question:            Hey, so, I'm wondering.  Are you surprised by the reactions of the fans because they're having like a violent reaction to you and maybe in the way that they did Kalon during your season of The Bachelorette.  So, what's your reaction to it?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes I can see where they're coming from.  It doesn’t look good but I really want people to differentiate the two shows.  I mean, The Bachelorette is a love show.  And The Bachelor Pad is – it's a game show.  I mean, if we were all going to sit there and be nice to each other, I don’t know if anyone would even win or if anyone would even want to win.

 

                I mean, we can do that on our own.  We can go to someone's house and just hang out if we wanted too but this was a game show.  You can't be nice to everybody.  I'm sorry, I am – like in my real life I am not a mean guy but I am was on a game show and it presented the opportunity to win a lot of money.

 

                So, I'm going to do what it takes to have that chance to win the money.

 

Question:            Right.  OK, and then, so, you obviously came into the house knowing some other guys from your season of The Bachelorette and I'm wondering, just based on your experiences with them and then, your experiences with everyone in the house.  Is it hard to separate real life from the game for you?

 

                And then, do you think it's hard for other people in the house as well?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I think it's a little tougher for others.  Well, for me, I can I can separate the game from real life very, very simply.  I don’t even consider The Bachelor Pad as it being part of my real life.  Obviously, it was an experience, it was on T.V. but it was a game show.

 

                Now, The Bachelorette is something different.  And that was something that it's very, very serious to me as far as love over money (any day).  And that I almost had that with Emily.

 

                So, The Bachelor Pad is, it's a game and just like playing any playing on, I don’t know, Wii or something and you beat your friend, an hour after you beat on him.  And now, you’re going to be friends again that’s how it is.  And I can definitely separate the two easily.

 

Question:            OK.  So, I actually interviewed you at the "Men Tell All" and…

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Oh, good.

 

Question:            … you know, you kind of warned me that you played (dirtier)…

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes.

 

Question:            I'm a little shocked.  I think you played a lot (dirtier).

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes.

 

Question:            And I wonder because you’re a guy and that you also seems super close to you family.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes.

 

Question:            And you have a sister, right?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Two sisters, yes.

 

Question:            Yes.  So, how are they responding to this new side of over competitive, let’s just say sexualized Chris?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Right.  Obviously, it's not easy from them to see but I warned them.  And they all know that I'm very competitive.  And obviously, they don’t like to see me hurt anybody's feelings because that’s not just the way I was raised.

 

                But at the end of the day, like I'm going to continue to say this, that it is a game and I am I can't be sorry.  I can't really be sorry for it because that’s what I was doing.  I was playing in a game, I guess that what I stood up for.  So it's not easy to talk to my parents about it but at the end of the day they know who I am.

 

                And the game is not going to change their opinion about their son.  So I'm not really worried about that.  And they're going to love me no matter what.  It's a game, like I said.

 

Question:            So, I'm going to and I totally understand the "It's a game" theory.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes, right.

 

Question:            Obviously, I think some of the issue is that girls are just different than boys, in that respect.  And it – to me, it comes off as Blakeley and Jamie and Sarah actually really starting to fall for you or really having feelings for you or thinking that it means more than it does, I guess.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Right.

 

Question:            And so, what do you say to them?  I mean you just used the analogy, that "Oh, an hour after you played Wii, you get over it."  But like, when you're hooking with people and stuff, I think feelings get a little more real than they're playing a Wii game.  So…

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Sure.  You know, I mean…

 

Question:            … have you talked to them since then?  Have you cleared the air?  Are you waiting until the finale tapings to clear the air?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I don’t if I can really talk about if I’ve cleared the air with them but obviously I guess that’s a bad analogy because, obviously it's people's feelings are on the line.  But to be honest Blakeley and Jamie you didn’t see this much as me saying it, they were there a 100 percent and they'll tell you that they were there for the money too.

 

 

                Blakeley was a 100 percent there for the money and so, was Jamie.  It just didn’t turn out that way for them as far our partnership that was involved.  And I was attracted to Jamie.  And it was – I was being held back by Blakeley and I was being held back by other people in the house.

 

                And that’s why it was critical and strategic for me not to partner up with her when I really wanted too because I felt like I would’ve got voted off a lot earlier.

 

Question:            Right.  No, it's definitely hard, I mean, I can see why – I mean, that’s the name of the game, I mean, that why it's a game show.  And why it's…

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Right.

 

Question:            … a highly rated T.V. show, you know.    Because people have to make decisions between feelings and money.  And I mean….you can see why (that is).

 

Chris Bukowski:                                And, you know what, honestly I didn't see myself going on to Bachelor Pad finding the girl of my dreams or falling in love.  You know, I felt like I laid that on the line with Emily and it was really close.  So, I just didn’t feel like this was the right time and place for me to find that girl.

 

                There's millions of girls out there that could be the right girl for me.  And I'd maybe just out of the 10 or 11 girls around Bachelor Pad what are the chances that they are the right girl for me.  So I was there focused on winning the money.

 

Question:            Well, for your sake, I hope that the millions of other girls who weren’t there understand why you did what you did.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I think they'll understand.

 

Question:            So, you seems especially mad at Kalon and Ed when you felt like they lied to you or did they lie to you…because of their own strategy the other night.  Did you earlier in this call, you admitted you've got to lie to people for strategy…

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Absolutely.

 

Question:            … on the Bachelor Pad.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Absolutely.

 

Question:            So, could you reconcile that anger toward them given that, you were doing…

 

Chris Bukowski:                                One million percent.  And a question earlier was if I can separate my life and the game and that’s something that I understood right away that these guys – everyone has the same right to play the game as I do.

 

                So of course, I'm angry because Kalon and Ed are they're just friends of mine.  And in the real life, you don’t expect to be lied too by your real friends.  But I come to the realization that these guys are trying to win the money just as much as I am.

 

                So it is what it is and you kind of just – you try to brush it off.  It's just tough when you're in that house with everybody and that’s just they're the only people that you're seeing all day.  It's – and you got to see their faces over and over and when they just lied to you, it's not easy, you know.

 

                But I understand that it is a game and they're playing the game as well.

 

Question:            And do you feel like you were wrong to share so much of the detail of your strategy with Mike Stagliano that night?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                You know what, from day one, I thought Michael was the best person to go to as far as strategy wise just because he won last season.  Yes, maybe it was and maybe it wasn't.  You know, I tried to include him on everything.  I tried to include everyone that was kind of in my lines on everything that I was doing just because I wanted them just to know what I was doing.

 

                And maybe I will regret it but I told him everything and you don’t see a lot of it but we told each other pretty much everything as far as what we're going to do going into elimination nights.

 

Question:            So, obviously, your plan to get Blakeley out didn’t work and how did that kind of affect your strategy going into next week show?  Did you – or do you still think about performing your alliances or what was your game plan then?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I'm sorry, you broke up at the beginning there.

 

Question:            OK.  I was just saying that obviously your plan to get Blakeley out backfired and it kind of put the target on your back.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Right.

 

Question:            So, what was your strategy going into the next week?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                You know, honestly, my strategy was to get Blakeley out and it was to break up the main alliance just because I felt like everything going kind of in a direction to having someone win besides myself.  So, I felt like I was going to make a bold move, vote Blakeley out.

 

                And I felt it like going into the next week that Jamie would be on my side and in my alliance.  And then there would kind of be a new alliance formed.  And I think we would have the majority of the people.  And I was trying to do something bold.

 

                I'm not going to really talk about who I was going to try to get to vote out for next week but it didn’t worked out.  So, yes, absolutely, I have the biggest target on my back.  And right now, it’s pretty plain to see that I have the biggest target in my back but I was just taking a chance in trying to change the game up a little bit.

 

Question:            OK.  And it feels like in the previews, you have a big confrontation with Ed.  Can you tell us anything about what happens there?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes, I mean, we briefly touched on it that Ed swore to me that he was going to vote for Blakeley in the last episode.  And he didn’t.  So, basically, I confront him about it and that’s what – what's the argument is about.

 

Question:            OK.  Fair enough.  And then, obviously, we've seen you with Jamie and then, Blakeley.  So, with Sarah, was that a strategy thing again or was that feelings?  Like, was there a genuine emotion involved in that?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                With Sarah, it was it was kind of everything.  It was something I want to do to, I thought for what I've know of Sarah from being on the show I thought that we would have a great time on the date.  Strategically wise she was very, very neutral in the house.

 

                She was kind of on both alliances.  So, I felt like strategically and for the sake of my sanity, she was the best person to pick on the date.

 

Question:            You said that you went to the show not expecting to fall in love and not looking for that but do you think if had met Jamie or Blakeley or Sarah outside of the show or any other way that something real could’ve happened with them, like a real future?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                One hundred percent, absolutely.  I think without - you know, with Blakeley in the game.  Blakeley is a very competitive person.  And I respect that.  Outside of the show, I don’t know.  I can see us being friends.  And but outside of the show, I think I can really see something maybe with Jamie and Sarah.

 

                Jamie is a sweet girl.  She's gorgeous too.  She’s a very pretty girl.  And Sarah, she's like – would fit into my group of friends like perfectly.  She’s very outgoing, not shy, very honest.  And she's just fun and see, out of two of those girls, like I definitely see something if I met them outside of the show, something happening.

 

Question:            And do you have any regrets for anything that happened on the show?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                No, I would I don’t – I really don’t have regrets because it's you can't really changed what has happened.  You know, I think about it but at the end of the day I did it for at that time, that’s what I wanted to do.  And I did it and hopefully, it's going to work out in my favor.

 

Question:            Do you think that you'd ever go on it again, like Michael did?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Wow, it depends.  I feel like people go on – go back in the show for the wrong reasons sometimes.  And it depends how will this all finishes up.  But, yes I would definitely consider it.  You know, I would lie if I didn’t say it was probably the one of the best experiences that I've had, it was fun.

 

                You know, you're in the house with a bunch of people for a long period of time and you hang out.  That's competitive but at the end of the day, it's a lot of fun and you meet a lot of good people.

 

Question:            Was there like a special fun memory or something that really stayed in your mind that we haven’t necessarily seen on the show, whether or not it aired or not, that you could share with us?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Honestly, my favorite part, it's going to sound kind of lame, but my favorite part was as you all saw me, I was the first one to walk into the mansion.  You know, being on Emily’s season, I was in Charlotte, so, I never actually got to see this mansion, whereas, pretty much all these people got to see this mansion before.

 

                And I'm watching the house – I was in that house by myself for a good hour before Linzi came in.  So, I was like I was sitting and talking to the pillows.  And that’s one.  I was just taking (inaudible) and it was that was a great experience for me just because I guess, it compares a lot of history that has happened in that house.

 

Question:            And is there a one person in particular that you feel like you made a friend during the show or someone that you really want to stay in touch with?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                You know, I think, yes, I became really good friends with Ed.  And he's a Chicago guy.  And I knew of Ed prior to being on the show.  And then, with him we just kind of, as you say, hit it off.  You know, he's a Chicago guy, we're both Polish.  And we get along pretty well.  So, yes, I can definitely see Ed and even like Jaclyn and some of these people that you don’t see us communicating too much with on the show but I've definitely made some good friends from the show.

 

Question:            Do you think you'll make up with Jamie?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I hope so.  You know, I hope so.  I don’t – I didn't think it was what is happening, you don’t really know how bad it really is.  You know, you don’t see everything.  And I didn’t – I honestly, didn't know it was that bad for her because we did talk about how we did not want to have this relationship on the show.

 

                And that we talked about if there were something after the show, if there was something there then definitely we can consider pursuing it.  Yes, I do, I feel for her.  And I'm sorry but at the same time, it’s just what I did.  I did it and I can’t take it back.

 

Question:            So, first we were just wondering kind of going back to The Bachelorette and now that’s it been some time since the show.  Do you think that Jeff and Emily are a good couple?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Absolutely, 100 percent.  I was – obviously, I got to know Emily pretty well.  And Jeff was, I would say, probably one of my best friends in the house.  And I got to know him very, very well.  And I feel like they're very compatible.

 

                It was kind of weird but I heard a lot about the relationship while I was still on the show with him.  And I just felt like they're very compatible.  I mean, they look great together.  And I really do believe it could work out between the two of them.

 

Question:            Oh, that’s awesome.  And have you guys been keeping in touch?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I hope it does, I hope it does.

 

                And you know what, I keep in touch with Jeff.  And I haven’t really talked to Emily too much but she has supported me on Twitter and I thank her so much for that. 

 

                And I keep in touch with a lot of the guys from the show.  I keep in touch with Arie a lot.  And, so, yes, Jeff, I talk to Jeff once in a while.  But obviously, we’re pretty doing a lot of things and helping out the world.  So, I'm basically supportive of what they're doing.

 

Question:            And besides helping out the world, have you heard anything about what's anyones up to?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                As far as the guys from the show or how do you mean?

 

Question:            Yes.  In just like besides that of and has Jeff said anything thing about him and Emily or not so much?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                No, I mean, when me and Jeff communicating is basically just about between me and him pretty much, you know.  It is kind of weird still talking about it with them, like, "Oh what are you guys doing today?"  But, no, yes, I mean, we exchange e-mails and what not and we keep in touch.  So, and he hasn't really said anything interesting about the relationship.

 

Question (This person clearly didn’t know what they were talking about):            Yes and then, (Ryan) teased about an exciting, romantic story line for you and now just like if you're announced the winner.  And you and Diana are going ahead or (inaudible) had some pretty great chemistry on the Glee project.  Are you hoping that (Ryan) would have you date (Gwen)?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Wow, can you say that again, that sounds awesome.  I didn’t really get all of that.

 

Question (Again no clue):             Just that (Ryan) said that if you're announced the winner that he has like an exciting, romantic story line kind of planned and…

 

Chris Bukowski:                                (Ryan) who?

 

Question (Hahaha):                        I think that’s the wrong show.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I'm like "wow" that really is (inaudible) sounds great.

 

ABC:                      I think that was for a Glee project and this is for Bachelor Pad.

 

Question:            I'm glad I got to make you excited and then, take that away.  Well, then, that’s it, my question.

 

Question:            Hi, Chris.  Oh, my God, I'm sorry, I'm still dying from that, hilarious.  Should I start asking your questions about other shows too, I feel, oh, my God, OK.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I mean, I'll be more than willing to answer them to like the best of my capabilities.

 

Question:            Oh, my God, (that was hilarious).  OK.  So, you were kind of talking about Jamie, would you reach out to her or do you think at this point, it's just best to have her reach out to you or just like leave it as is?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Will I reach out for her?  Yes, I would but, I'd know, I think right now, I think I would like to leave it as is.  And kind of let everything play out.  And I feel for her and I think about her, I really do.  I think about it everyday.

 

                And I don’t want to hurt anybody's feelings.  And I obviously, hurt her feelings.  But as I touched up on the earlier with someone else's, if there was no game and if there was just – me meeting her out sometime, I do think that something could be there.

 

                I mean, I can’t be judged on how I am with relationships from being on game show, I just can't.  And that’s just not the way I am.  I was just playing game and she was part of it.  So, yes, I would definitely like to patch things up with her eventually.

 

Question:            And then, this is kind of another question on, I'm actually from Maryland but I live in Hawaii now.  And one of the my friends, she was like seeing or you or something.  And she's from my hometown.  What we're you doing in Maryland?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Well, I'm actually considering a move out there.

 

Question:            Shut-up.  (It's hard).

 

Chris Bukowski:                                And it is for – just for an opportunity for a job.

 

Question:            Wow.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                And it would be – yes, it’s like the suburb, like Gaithersburg, Rockville area.

 

Question:            OK, that’s where I'm from. 

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Uh Oh!

 

Question:            That’s – it's an amazing place, like I miss it every day but like, hello, you can't beat Hawaii but it's awesome.

 

Chris Bukowski:                Yes, I know Hawaii is great.  I was just there for the first time and it was awesome.

 

Question:            Oh, really, yes, but Gaithersburg is seriously such an amazing place.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Are you trying to sell me it, I think it's great already.

 

Question:            I guess, I don’t have to sell you on it. 

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes and so, we'll see what happens with that.

 

Question:            When are you think about moving out there?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                It would be soon.  It would be sometime in September.

 

Question:            Oh, wow. 

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Yes.

 

Question:            And just one other question, do you still have sort of strong feelings for Emily?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I will there's no strong feelings for her as far as romantically.  You know, those went away after it took sometime actually for them to go away after she sent me home but we're friends now. 

 

                And I think she's a great girl.  And I think her and Jeff are very, very good for each other.  And I'm glad that they found each other because I'm friends with both of them.  And I think they're very compatible.  So, no, there's no romantic feelings towards Emily anymore, no.

 

Question:            And then, what's been your favorite competition so far in the show?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                My favorite competition has probably been I really liked the game show from the last episode.  You didn't get to see all of it but it was a pretty – it was pretty interesting.  And it was a good game.  And as much I hated the Hot Sludge Funday one, when I was actually doing the competition.

 

                Now, that I look back on it, that was a lot of fun, especially being able to beat Ed at the last second there.

 

Question:            My God, (inaudible).  All right, well, I'm going to message you because I am – I'll give you some tips on Gaithersburg for sure.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Sounds great.

 

Question:            I’m good, thanks.  Well, my first question is, how can you leave Chicago for Maryland?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I was thinking about you because I heard you – that you're on the call.  I love, you know what, honestly, I love Chicago.  It's my favorite city in the whole wide world.  And I just moved there from New York actually about a year ago but I grew up there.  And I bought a place all this great stuff.  And then, when The Bachelorette happened and all this stuff happened, I had to I rented my place out because I was carrying a mortgage.  So now, I have all these opportunities as far as what I'm in.  I'm in sports marketing and stuff.

                So, a few opportunities have come up and I just had to really keep my options open.  I don't want to leave though.

 

Question:            But this next questions is, how would you feel about being The Bachelor?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Well, I just I would – it would definitely be a great opportunity.  I just don’t think, right now it would be the right time for me to be The Bachelor.  I think maybe in a year or two, I'd be more ready to really take on that role of really putting my heart out there and really committing to a woman and having her be my wife.

 

                And starting a family with her.  I just don’t think right now is the right time to be The Bachelor, Bachelor Chris.

 

Question:            So, when you discovered Jamie was going home instead of Blakeley, what immediately went through your mind?  And how confident were you on your alliance leading up to that moment?  Right before Blakeley got the rose.

 

Chris Bukowski:                                I was very confident.  I was confident, I had faith in my guys that Blakeley was going to go home.  And when she didn't go home, I basically said, I mean, I'm going to – I said, "Oh, shit."  And you know, I was like, "Oh, goodness, this can't be good for me."

 

                I took a huge gamble and that it didn’t work out.  So, obviously, going into next week, I have – I mean, a target that doesn't fit on my back, it's so big.  So I was – it was definitely worrisome.  And I wasn't happy when it happened but I said at the end of the day, it's a game and everyone else is playing just as much as I am.

 

Question:            Right.  And you were convinced that getting rid of Blakeley would better your chances in the game because Jamie would still kind of follow you and support you since she had a crush on you.  But considering the ups and downs, you and Jamie had in the house for a while, why were you so certain that was going to be the case?

 

                Like, were you ever worried or thought about the possibility of her maybe turning the tables one day and rallying votes in trying to get you out or?

 

Chris Bukowski:                To her, I mean, absolutely, but you have to take those chances that you can get someone on your team.  You know, I thought Kalon and Ed were on my team.  And obviously it worked at the last second.  So, you have to take those chances and those risks to get as many people on your side as possible.

 

                So, I thought keeping Jamie around, she would be on my side or maybe not long term but if it – just like to the next week, then I would be willing to accept that.  I would be – I knew Blakeley wasn’t on my side anymore let’s just put it that way.

 

                So, strategically, I thought Jamie would still be on my side for at least going into the next week or so.

 

Question:            Right.  And I know you've mentioned that you clearly knew you had a huge target on your back once Jamie left the house.  So, since Blakeley remained in the house at this point in the season.  How did you think her presence was going to affect your game?

 

                Like, did you think she was going to ruin things for you at the time or did you think you had enough power in the game to say, "Oh, well, I'll just get rid of Blakeley next?"

 

Chris Bukowski:                Well, I mean, Blakeley is – she's very well spoken.  And she has a lot of power herself.  So, I knew I was in big trouble and I'm very worried going into the next week, after Jamie got eliminated. 

 

                I wasn’t confident at all actually, as far as where I stood taking Sarah on that date, it was a huge game changer because Sarah was very neutral as far being in the house but she wasn't on that alliance that I was on with Blakeley.  So, it was it's just – it wasn’t looking too good.  Let's put it that way.

 

Question:            OK, sure.  And you ended up making out with Jamie and Blakeley before getting to know and hooking up with Sarah.  So, would you mind talking a little bit about why you didn’t like Jamie and Blakeley?  Like why weren’t they’re the girls for you and how was Sarah different from them in your eyes?

 

Chris Bukowski:                That’s a great question.  Blakeley – like from the beginning I said that she is a great competitor.  I may have told her that I wanted to be partners with her until the end but I think she kind of took it differently.  I wanted to play the game and she (inaudible) in the game.

 

                I mean, you guys all saw her I say, "You know, stop thinking emotionally and all that."  I told her to not think emotionally but it's just – it wasn’t going to work out.  And I'm – I was at the point where I wasn’t having fun in the house anymore with anybody.

 

                I wasn't communicating with anybody, it was just me and Blakeley, me and Blakeley all the time.  And that's – that wasn't fun for me. 

 

                With Jamie, I think Jamie is a great girl.  And I didn’t lie when I told her that I thought she was the most attractive girl from Ben's season because I've meant that.  And I've told my parents that before when they were watching the show.

 

                And with her, she was not – she couldn’t be a good partner just because the girls really didn’t get along with her too well in the house.  So, I couldn’t – if I made that move and was partners with Jamie and when the next show is ending I'm pretty much out of the door.

 

                Sarah, I'd say it over and over again, very neutral and unbelievable girl.  She's very kind of careless.  She just kind of goes on with her life and doesn’t try to get too emotionally involved with things.  And she's just has fun, she's a lot of fun and she's a sweetheart.

 

Question:            OK.  Awesome and my last question for you, Chris, is looking back on the season so far.  Would you kind of agree that you lead Jamie on it all or do you think you gave her enough signals to make her realize you just weren’t that into her?  Like, in other words, do you think it's kind of your fault or her own fault for falling for you so hard and fast?  You know what I mean?

 

Chris Bukowski:                                Right.  Yes, sure.  I don’t know, I'm not going to say it's not my fault but obviously it takes two.  And I have – I told her I don’t know, I denied her more than once.  And we talked about not getting so emotionally involved during the show.

 

                So, yes I'm not going to sit here and say that it's a 100 percent my fault.  But, yes, it is my fault, I did lead her on I just said a lot of stuff that (inaudible) meant too, I wanted to kiss her.  It was just, I couldn’t be partners with her, I just couldn’t because for my sake of the game, it just wouldn’t be a smart move for me.

 

                You know, and it takes two, it really does as far as any kind of relationships in general that it takes two.  It’s just not me.  So, I mean, she's a smart girl.  And she could have realized that, "Chris is - probably not the best idea for me to pursue Chris."

 

                You know, and she could have moved on.  And it was just really a tough situation to be honest.

 

 

Hugs, Kisses & Roses,

Jennifer Matarese

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